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The Price of
Technical SEO Debt
You’re leaving money on the table.
Let’s stop that.



John Doherty - @dohertyjf
John Doherty
Director/Lead Consultant at
Distilled NYC

Blogger – johnfdoherty.com

Tweeter - @dohertyjf

Photographer –
johndohertyphotography.com

 Usually wears this shirt to
speak
I also call this talk “Quit
building links and fix your
freakin’ site.”
All of these are in SEO




And Contribute to Debt
A lot of sites don’t need
       more links.
If links were the only factor,
these guys should dominate.
A lot of sites don’t need
       more links.
Link competitor analysis
would reveal this.
This talk is about advanced
technical SEO.
What can I teach you that you
won’t get here?




Not much, if I’m honest.
If you want to learn hardcore
technical SEO, follow these guys



   @dsottimano                @adamsherk              @searchmartin




   @thenextcorner            @brianprovost            @mdsimmonds

They’re smarter than I am and are who I learn from.
Read These Awesome Resources

 How To Perform The World’s Greatest SEO Audit (SEOmoz)



 Craziest Audit Checklist On The Internet (SEER via @anniecushing)



 Find Your Biggest Technical Flaws in 60 Minutes (SEOmoz via @dsottimano)
Technical SEO Debt defined:
A metaphor referring to the eventual consequences of
poor or evolving architecture or SEO
problems/dependencies within a website.

(paraphrase of Technical Debt on Wikipedia)
Not Investing in Technical Debt




Investing in Technical Debt
This talk isn’t about tips
and tricks.
Instead, let’s talk about
something that matters.




After all, what’s more advanced than that?
Technical SEO debt can cost
you
Client 1 wasn’t ranking
    6+ pages targeting every term (high-volume search terms) – low effort


                       Zero internal linking – high effort


                    No crawl path to speak of – high effort


               Minimal content on “SEO” pages – medium effort


                             Tons of links - bonus


John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Potential Traffic Was
Astronomical
                                                               This is for
                                                               their top
                                                               2100
                                                               keywords.
                                                               This doesn’t
                                                               include
                                                               longtail
                                                               either. We’re
                                                               talking
                                                               millions in
                                                               revenue per
                                                               year.


500,000+ visits per year potential, at $XXX/conversion. WOW.
Client 2 wasn’t ranking
                        No crawl path – medium effort


                       10,000+ 302 redirects – low effort


                     No keyword targeting – medium effort


               “SEO” content, not valuable content – high effort


                      Growing #s of links, but not traffic


John Doherty | @dohertyjf
“You could say we had
 potential.”
  - Abraham Lincoln
We fixed 302s iteratively and
traffic tripled.
   302s
   changed
   to 301s




                                                 Oh hello.




302s fixed over a 3 week period. Traffic 3x’d.
Execs don’t understand
“302s” or “internal links.”
How do we make the case?
Revenue/Effort
     Potential revenue * Potential converting traffic/hours*hourly rate



        If potential revenue is higher than the total cost to make
        the change, it’s worth your time. The bigger the margin,
        the easier the case.



http://www.seomoz.org/blog/meaningful-seo-metrics
*Caveat* - I recommend
being conservative in your
estimates to set yourself up
for success.
I want to give you
ammunition for your
bosses/clients
First
Identify Your Goals
Your KPI Is Your Pitch

  Whatever your conversion means (revenue, profit, user signup), this is
  how you achieve buy-in to fix technical problems.


           If we do x, we can expect y. If we don’t do x, y will do z.


  Another way to pitch it is “How much/many money/conversions are we
  leaving on the table by not making this change?”


  http://www.distilled.net/blog/web-analytics/are-you-leaving-mobile-
  users-on-the-table/


http://www.seonick.net/seo-business-model/
Execs need to hang their hat on
something.
Second
Find your largest issues
(scale) and grab as much
data as possible.
http://pro.seomoz.org/tools/keyword-difficulty

http://seogadget.com/mozscape-api-extension-
for-excel/

http://www.johnfdoherty.com/making-seomozs-serp-analysis-tool-more-
awesome/
I do one Excel sheet with all my
data, and visualize.
                                             Internal links


                                             External links


                                             DA/PA/mR


                                             Page size


  Level in architecture       Rank           Load time


http://www.johnfdoherty.com/making-seomozs-serp-analysis-tool-more-
awesome/
Then graph it and find
anomalies.




Spot the correlations and anomalies – Excel for SEO
Third
Pitch the case with data
and your KPI. If needed,
propose a test.
Example 1: Information
Architecture
Bad Information Architecture
Kills Your Rankings/Revenue
  Visualize yours vs your competitors. Show ranking and potential traffic
  comparison. I used Visio here.




http://seogadget.com/inspiring-sitemap-diagrams/
Bad Information Architecture
Kills Your Rankings/Revenue
   Visualize yours vs your competitors. Show ranking and potential traffic
   comparison. I used Visio here.




   If you show this to your VP I will fly to your office and kick you in the shins.




Pitch what they care about, not what you find interesting.
I showed it this way too.

                                     Level in
                                     architecture
                                     was closely
                                     correlated to
                                     rankings. We
                                     ranked
                                     terribly, and
                                     this convinced
                                     the exec to
                                     buy into
                                     letting us
                                     make changes.


Competitor comparison is powerful.
Pitch the potential $$/users.

 5000 potential visitors    5% conversion rate   $200 per conversion




                $50,000 potential
                revenue in this test.



John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Show how the investment will
pay off.

 5000 potential visitors    5% conversion rate   $200 per conversion




          $50,000/(hours)*(hourly rate)


John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Use Story Time To Get Accurate
Numbers.
 The only way to get these numbers as accurate as possible is to get
 commitment from the development team about how much time *they*
 think it will take.

 This is true agile. Some companies call it “story time” where they sit
 down, build the “story” of what they want to do, and come to a team
 consensus.
Pitch a test if necessary.
  Getting buy-in is the hardest part, so pitch a test. We did an internal
  links test and these are the results we saw across the domain (30%+
  increase in keywords and unique ranking URLs).




  Protip – execs love these charts. Up and to the right is their language.

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/smarter-internal-linking-whiteboard-friday
Be sure to report on the results
with KPIs in mind.
  Here’s one keyword that we tested (10k/visits mo) and now have buy-in
  for more work.




John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Use one success to create more
tests for success.
  Here’s one keyword that we tested (10k/visits mo) and now have buy-in
  for more work.



  It worked. Got more buy-in.




John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Example 2: Thin Content
Thin Content Keeps You From
Ranking
                            In this case,
                            content on-
                            page was very
                            highly
                            correlated to
                            rankings/traffic
                            . This held true
                            across SERPs
                            run through
                            Screaming
                            Frog.



John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Thin Content Keeps You From
Ranking
                            Added
                            content to
                            important
                            pages. When
                            the page
                            already
                            ranked, saw
                            a 13.46
                            position
                            increase on
                            average. 5.65
                            was average
                            when URL
                            changed.

John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Built upon previous success to
get buy-in and prove worth.




                            Repeated Success.


John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Example 3: Pitch Bigger
Ideas After Test
Client Targeted A Keyword
About To Spike in Volume




               We hit it here and…


John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Client Targeted A Keyword
About To Spike in Volume




  Search volume spiked
                            Months later, we still get converting
                            traffic from it.

John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Client Targeted A Keyword
About To Spike in Volume




   You know where I’m going with this now. It’s time to do some more
   modeling and show reason for doing it again.
John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Pitch the Internal Case Study

         If A did B and got us
                result C
  What we’re saying here is “let’s do it again!” If example A yielded x%
  conversion and y number of users, then it’s worth trying to replicate that
  success especially since the infrastructure already exists!



John Doherty | @dohertyjf
At the end of the day, your
boss should care about
revenue, not rankings.
Technical SEO Matters For The
Bottom Line




John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Fixing Technical SEO Issues Sets
You Up For Future Success

    This was
    the 302s.




                            Flywheel accelerating




John Doherty | @dohertyjf
Remember This Formula

                                  Avg                 Avg
            Potential
                               Conversion          Conversion
             Traffic
                                  Rate               Value



                               Cost to Fix


http://geoffkenyon.com/keyword-opportunity-tool/
????
Profit
Questions?

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The price of technical seo debt final

  • 1. The Price of Technical SEO Debt You’re leaving money on the table. Let’s stop that. John Doherty - @dohertyjf
  • 2. John Doherty Director/Lead Consultant at Distilled NYC Blogger – johnfdoherty.com Tweeter - @dohertyjf Photographer – johndohertyphotography.com  Usually wears this shirt to speak
  • 3. I also call this talk “Quit building links and fix your freakin’ site.”
  • 4. All of these are in SEO And Contribute to Debt
  • 5. A lot of sites don’t need more links. If links were the only factor, these guys should dominate.
  • 6. A lot of sites don’t need more links. Link competitor analysis would reveal this.
  • 7. This talk is about advanced technical SEO.
  • 8. What can I teach you that you won’t get here? Not much, if I’m honest.
  • 9. If you want to learn hardcore technical SEO, follow these guys @dsottimano @adamsherk @searchmartin @thenextcorner @brianprovost @mdsimmonds They’re smarter than I am and are who I learn from.
  • 10. Read These Awesome Resources How To Perform The World’s Greatest SEO Audit (SEOmoz) Craziest Audit Checklist On The Internet (SEER via @anniecushing) Find Your Biggest Technical Flaws in 60 Minutes (SEOmoz via @dsottimano)
  • 11. Technical SEO Debt defined: A metaphor referring to the eventual consequences of poor or evolving architecture or SEO problems/dependencies within a website. (paraphrase of Technical Debt on Wikipedia)
  • 12. Not Investing in Technical Debt Investing in Technical Debt
  • 13. This talk isn’t about tips and tricks.
  • 14. Instead, let’s talk about something that matters. After all, what’s more advanced than that?
  • 15. Technical SEO debt can cost you
  • 16. Client 1 wasn’t ranking 6+ pages targeting every term (high-volume search terms) – low effort Zero internal linking – high effort No crawl path to speak of – high effort Minimal content on “SEO” pages – medium effort Tons of links - bonus John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 17. Potential Traffic Was Astronomical This is for their top 2100 keywords. This doesn’t include longtail either. We’re talking millions in revenue per year. 500,000+ visits per year potential, at $XXX/conversion. WOW.
  • 18. Client 2 wasn’t ranking No crawl path – medium effort 10,000+ 302 redirects – low effort No keyword targeting – medium effort “SEO” content, not valuable content – high effort Growing #s of links, but not traffic John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 19. “You could say we had potential.” - Abraham Lincoln
  • 20. We fixed 302s iteratively and traffic tripled. 302s changed to 301s Oh hello. 302s fixed over a 3 week period. Traffic 3x’d.
  • 21. Execs don’t understand “302s” or “internal links.” How do we make the case?
  • 22. Revenue/Effort Potential revenue * Potential converting traffic/hours*hourly rate If potential revenue is higher than the total cost to make the change, it’s worth your time. The bigger the margin, the easier the case. http://www.seomoz.org/blog/meaningful-seo-metrics
  • 23. *Caveat* - I recommend being conservative in your estimates to set yourself up for success.
  • 24. I want to give you ammunition for your bosses/clients
  • 26. Your KPI Is Your Pitch Whatever your conversion means (revenue, profit, user signup), this is how you achieve buy-in to fix technical problems. If we do x, we can expect y. If we don’t do x, y will do z. Another way to pitch it is “How much/many money/conversions are we leaving on the table by not making this change?” http://www.distilled.net/blog/web-analytics/are-you-leaving-mobile- users-on-the-table/ http://www.seonick.net/seo-business-model/
  • 27. Execs need to hang their hat on something.
  • 28. Second Find your largest issues (scale) and grab as much data as possible.
  • 30. I do one Excel sheet with all my data, and visualize. Internal links External links DA/PA/mR Page size Level in architecture Rank Load time http://www.johnfdoherty.com/making-seomozs-serp-analysis-tool-more- awesome/
  • 31. Then graph it and find anomalies. Spot the correlations and anomalies – Excel for SEO
  • 32. Third Pitch the case with data and your KPI. If needed, propose a test.
  • 34. Bad Information Architecture Kills Your Rankings/Revenue Visualize yours vs your competitors. Show ranking and potential traffic comparison. I used Visio here. http://seogadget.com/inspiring-sitemap-diagrams/
  • 35. Bad Information Architecture Kills Your Rankings/Revenue Visualize yours vs your competitors. Show ranking and potential traffic comparison. I used Visio here. If you show this to your VP I will fly to your office and kick you in the shins. Pitch what they care about, not what you find interesting.
  • 36. I showed it this way too. Level in architecture was closely correlated to rankings. We ranked terribly, and this convinced the exec to buy into letting us make changes. Competitor comparison is powerful.
  • 37. Pitch the potential $$/users. 5000 potential visitors 5% conversion rate $200 per conversion $50,000 potential revenue in this test. John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 38. Show how the investment will pay off. 5000 potential visitors 5% conversion rate $200 per conversion $50,000/(hours)*(hourly rate) John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 39. Use Story Time To Get Accurate Numbers. The only way to get these numbers as accurate as possible is to get commitment from the development team about how much time *they* think it will take. This is true agile. Some companies call it “story time” where they sit down, build the “story” of what they want to do, and come to a team consensus.
  • 40. Pitch a test if necessary. Getting buy-in is the hardest part, so pitch a test. We did an internal links test and these are the results we saw across the domain (30%+ increase in keywords and unique ranking URLs). Protip – execs love these charts. Up and to the right is their language. http://www.seomoz.org/blog/smarter-internal-linking-whiteboard-friday
  • 41. Be sure to report on the results with KPIs in mind. Here’s one keyword that we tested (10k/visits mo) and now have buy-in for more work. John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 42. Use one success to create more tests for success. Here’s one keyword that we tested (10k/visits mo) and now have buy-in for more work. It worked. Got more buy-in. John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 43. Example 2: Thin Content
  • 44. Thin Content Keeps You From Ranking In this case, content on- page was very highly correlated to rankings/traffic . This held true across SERPs run through Screaming Frog. John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 45. Thin Content Keeps You From Ranking Added content to important pages. When the page already ranked, saw a 13.46 position increase on average. 5.65 was average when URL changed. John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 46. Built upon previous success to get buy-in and prove worth. Repeated Success. John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 47. Example 3: Pitch Bigger Ideas After Test
  • 48. Client Targeted A Keyword About To Spike in Volume We hit it here and… John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 49. Client Targeted A Keyword About To Spike in Volume Search volume spiked Months later, we still get converting traffic from it. John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 50. Client Targeted A Keyword About To Spike in Volume You know where I’m going with this now. It’s time to do some more modeling and show reason for doing it again. John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 51. Pitch the Internal Case Study If A did B and got us result C What we’re saying here is “let’s do it again!” If example A yielded x% conversion and y number of users, then it’s worth trying to replicate that success especially since the infrastructure already exists! John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 52. At the end of the day, your boss should care about revenue, not rankings.
  • 53. Technical SEO Matters For The Bottom Line John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 54. Fixing Technical SEO Issues Sets You Up For Future Success This was the 302s. Flywheel accelerating John Doherty | @dohertyjf
  • 55. Remember This Formula Avg Avg Potential Conversion Conversion Traffic Rate Value Cost to Fix http://geoffkenyon.com/keyword-opportunity-tool/
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