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How to Win an Argument With a Vegetarian By Minger, Inc.
Vegetarians: Secretly Plotting World Domination “Forks Over Knives” movie “A Delicate Balance” movie “Vegucated” Movie “Voyage to Betterment” movie “The Idiot’s Guide to Plant-Based Nutrition” book
Plant-Based Diet Doctor Squad: Dean Ornish Limits sugar, corn syrup, white flour, margarine, vegetable oils, alcohol, and any processed food with more than 2 grams of fat Program involves smoking cessation, peer support, stress management, and exercise
Plant-Based Diet Doctor Squad: Caldwell Esselstyn Forbids vegetable oils, refined grains, white flour, and products made from enriched flour such as bread, pasta, bagels, and baked goods Uses statins to bring patients’ cholesterol down below 150
Plant-Based Diet Doctor Squad: John McDougall Limits white four, refined grains, sugar-coated cereals, soft drinks, processed carbohydrates, fruit juice, and vegetable oils
Plant-Based Diet Doctor Squad: Neal Barnard Forbids vegetable oils, high-glycemic foods, high fructose corn syrup, caloric sweeteners, and fried starches like potato chips and French fries
Hmm… what other diet limits those foods? Etc.
Lifestyle Differences between Vegs and Omnis
Lifestyle Differences Between Vegs and Omnis
Lifestyle Differences Between Vegs and Omnis
What does that mean? Confounders: vegetarianism and veganism usually go hand-in-hand with other health-promoting lifestyle changes, giving them an advantage in observational studies
Religious Vegetarians  Buddhist vegetarian women in Taiwain have significantly increased C-reactive protein, homocysteine, and triglycerides "Most western vegetarians include fresh vegetables and fruits as their main source of nutrition and energy, based on health benefits of the foods. In contrast, most Taiwanese vegetarians choose a vegetarian diet because of their Buddhist religion, which teaches a policy of “no killing” Buddhists in Taiwan have a dietary pattern similar to that of most Taiwanese in terms of meal pat-terns and cooking methods, except that they do not include any meat, fish, or poultry in their meals." “Taiwanese Female Vegetarians Have Lower Lipoprotein-Associated Phospholipase A2 Compared with Omnivores” by Chih-Wei Chen, et al. in  Yonsei Med J 52(1):13-19, 2011
But what about the Adventists? Vegetarian Adventists consume fewer “doughnuts, coffee, and eggs” than omnivore Adventists Vegetarian Adventists tend to have similar health outcomes as Mormons, who are not vegetarian but do abstain from alcohol and drugs and have strong sense of community
Top Secret Adventist Info Recent re-analysis of the Adventist Health Studies show the fish eaters – not the vegans or vegetarians – have the lowest relative risk for all-cause mortality (0.78 versus 0.89 for lacto-ovo vegetarians)
But what about the Adventists? Study found that non-vegetarian Adventists eat more doughnuts, drink more coffee, and eat more eggs than the vegetarians Researchers’ conclusion: “Among Seventh-day Adventists, vegetarians are healthier than nonvegetarians but this cannot be ascribed only to the absence of meat.” “Associations between diet and cancer, ischemic heart disease, and all-cause mortality non-Hispanic white California Seventh-day Adventists” by Gary E. Fraser, American Journal of Clinical Nutrition,  Vol. 70 No. 3
But doesn’t animal protein melt your bones? The argument: animal protein has high levels of sulfur-containing amino acids, which increase your body’s acid load Animal protein associated with more calcium excreted in urine Vegetarians cite this as evidence animal foods cause osteoporosis
The boney truth Animal protein is nearly always associated with greater bone density, especially in the elderly Most recent meta analysis (55 studies) found no support for the “acid load and osteoporosis” theory Vegetarians and vegans oftenhave lower BMD and higher fracture rates than omnivores
Other Things Evolution: yes, we’ve been eating meat for a really freakin’ long time Our guts are not the same as herbivores, especially other primates: our colons shrunk and we (mostly) lost the ability to get energy from fiber
Wanna talk ethics or environment? Go to the website LetThemEatMeat.com, which intelligently examines the ethical arguments for avoiding animal foods Read “Meat: A Benign Extravagance” by Simon Fairlie for a balanced and in-depth examination of plant vs. animal foods on our resources and the environment

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AHS Slides_Denise Minger

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  • 2. How to Win an Argument With a Vegetarian By Minger, Inc.
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  • 5. Vegetarians: Secretly Plotting World Domination “Forks Over Knives” movie “A Delicate Balance” movie “Vegucated” Movie “Voyage to Betterment” movie “The Idiot’s Guide to Plant-Based Nutrition” book
  • 6. Plant-Based Diet Doctor Squad: Dean Ornish Limits sugar, corn syrup, white flour, margarine, vegetable oils, alcohol, and any processed food with more than 2 grams of fat Program involves smoking cessation, peer support, stress management, and exercise
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  • 8. Plant-Based Diet Doctor Squad: Caldwell Esselstyn Forbids vegetable oils, refined grains, white flour, and products made from enriched flour such as bread, pasta, bagels, and baked goods Uses statins to bring patients’ cholesterol down below 150
  • 9. Plant-Based Diet Doctor Squad: John McDougall Limits white four, refined grains, sugar-coated cereals, soft drinks, processed carbohydrates, fruit juice, and vegetable oils
  • 10. Plant-Based Diet Doctor Squad: Neal Barnard Forbids vegetable oils, high-glycemic foods, high fructose corn syrup, caloric sweeteners, and fried starches like potato chips and French fries
  • 11. Hmm… what other diet limits those foods? Etc.
  • 15. What does that mean? Confounders: vegetarianism and veganism usually go hand-in-hand with other health-promoting lifestyle changes, giving them an advantage in observational studies
  • 16. Religious Vegetarians Buddhist vegetarian women in Taiwain have significantly increased C-reactive protein, homocysteine, and triglycerides "Most western vegetarians include fresh vegetables and fruits as their main source of nutrition and energy, based on health benefits of the foods. In contrast, most Taiwanese vegetarians choose a vegetarian diet because of their Buddhist religion, which teaches a policy of “no killing” Buddhists in Taiwan have a dietary pattern similar to that of most Taiwanese in terms of meal pat-terns and cooking methods, except that they do not include any meat, fish, or poultry in their meals." “Taiwanese Female Vegetarians Have Lower Lipoprotein-Associated Phospholipase A2 Compared with Omnivores” by Chih-Wei Chen, et al. in Yonsei Med J 52(1):13-19, 2011
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  • 18. But what about the Adventists? Vegetarian Adventists consume fewer “doughnuts, coffee, and eggs” than omnivore Adventists Vegetarian Adventists tend to have similar health outcomes as Mormons, who are not vegetarian but do abstain from alcohol and drugs and have strong sense of community
  • 19. Top Secret Adventist Info Recent re-analysis of the Adventist Health Studies show the fish eaters – not the vegans or vegetarians – have the lowest relative risk for all-cause mortality (0.78 versus 0.89 for lacto-ovo vegetarians)
  • 20. But what about the Adventists? Study found that non-vegetarian Adventists eat more doughnuts, drink more coffee, and eat more eggs than the vegetarians Researchers’ conclusion: “Among Seventh-day Adventists, vegetarians are healthier than nonvegetarians but this cannot be ascribed only to the absence of meat.” “Associations between diet and cancer, ischemic heart disease, and all-cause mortality non-Hispanic white California Seventh-day Adventists” by Gary E. Fraser, American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol. 70 No. 3
  • 21. But doesn’t animal protein melt your bones? The argument: animal protein has high levels of sulfur-containing amino acids, which increase your body’s acid load Animal protein associated with more calcium excreted in urine Vegetarians cite this as evidence animal foods cause osteoporosis
  • 22. The boney truth Animal protein is nearly always associated with greater bone density, especially in the elderly Most recent meta analysis (55 studies) found no support for the “acid load and osteoporosis” theory Vegetarians and vegans oftenhave lower BMD and higher fracture rates than omnivores
  • 23. Other Things Evolution: yes, we’ve been eating meat for a really freakin’ long time Our guts are not the same as herbivores, especially other primates: our colons shrunk and we (mostly) lost the ability to get energy from fiber
  • 24. Wanna talk ethics or environment? Go to the website LetThemEatMeat.com, which intelligently examines the ethical arguments for avoiding animal foods Read “Meat: A Benign Extravagance” by Simon Fairlie for a balanced and in-depth examination of plant vs. animal foods on our resources and the environment

Editor's Notes

  1. Excerpt from page 43 of “Eat More, Weigh Less”
  2. The very diets that health-conscious veganism is at war with.
  3. Ellen G. White